Thousand Years Vs AD70
Written by: Delbert Magusara Haim
April 4, 2013
For those who are not yet familiar of AD70 significance, this is all about the second coming of the Son of man in the clouds of heaven. That period is approximately counted 70 Gregorian Calendar years from the birth of Jesus. AD means Anno Domini, translated as "In the year of our Lord". From here the issue of Christ's second coming becomes subjective in the Christendom. Each party has disagreement whether it was fulfilled in AD70 or still in the future of thousand years. But before we will discuss this topic please think first of what do you believe about this and guess if you have a solid proof.
I have argued several times with different groups of Christian in the net about this issue and I believe I did share to them the pieces of evidence to support my stand but this time I want you to judge by yourself if I was right. Most of the Christians in our country Philippines believe it is still to come because of many reasons and one of those is found in the writing of Peter that says;
People who have this type of belief are called futurists and they who believe it's already fulfilled are preterists. In futuristic view, they claimed that the thousand years mentioned by Peter has to do with the thousand years of delay by reason that all should come to repentance before the Jesus comes. Another reason is God's promise has been postponed and inserted a temporal time period called grace dispensation. As it becomes 2,000 temporal years now.
Anyway, we will try to examine the thousand years of what is this all about; a delay or a postponement. Concerning the principle of God for the house of Israel, it is said that the promise he has spoken surely He will do and it will come to pass.
And when it comes to time: like doing it quickly, surely he did.
Now if the Lord says quickly with respect to signs what can you say then?
Questions:
The truth is He will not come after thousands of year. The context of a thousand years as one day and one day as thousand is an infinite time frame of coming. To come with rewards, eternally he did in every bit of our hearts but in the coming with vengeance, He will come like a thief in the night and destroy their city.
The exact hour, day, and month of His coming with vengeance are not given but all should watch and must understand the signs He gave. No one knows the dates neither can see His appearing but when the disciples receive powers of the Holy Ghost then the time is near.
Near as He is standing on the door. The apostle James says be ready guys and be patient to one another for he is almost here.
The same guidance given by the Hebrew writer to exhort one another as they see it approaching.
All of the signs they saw made them believe it is really happening since the day of Pentecost; the receiving of powers as He promised; "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost
And when he came, those who believed his words departed from their City and were saved from the great wrath. They knew it because when they saw Jerusalem surrounded with thousands of army they remembered Jesus' warning.
Then finally all things are fulfilled and the old heaven and earth had passed away; melted with fervent heat and were dissolved by fire from the hands of their enemies, the Roman armies.
Now, where is the postponement or delay here?
So please don't hold what God has fulfilled in their very own time. Perhaps none of us have witness this great tribulation of ancient Israelites, but Gen. Josephus did and had wrote it. I believe the 40 years of waiting is the quickly He meant, enough to bring all His chosen people to repentance and to be saved. And He did a long long time ago.
April 4, 2013
For those who are not yet familiar of AD70 significance, this is all about the second coming of the Son of man in the clouds of heaven. That period is approximately counted 70 Gregorian Calendar years from the birth of Jesus. AD means Anno Domini, translated as "In the year of our Lord". From here the issue of Christ's second coming becomes subjective in the Christendom. Each party has disagreement whether it was fulfilled in AD70 or still in the future of thousand years. But before we will discuss this topic please think first of what do you believe about this and guess if you have a solid proof.
I have argued several times with different groups of Christian in the net about this issue and I believe I did share to them the pieces of evidence to support my stand but this time I want you to judge by yourself if I was right. Most of the Christians in our country Philippines believe it is still to come because of many reasons and one of those is found in the writing of Peter that says;
- 2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
People who have this type of belief are called futurists and they who believe it's already fulfilled are preterists. In futuristic view, they claimed that the thousand years mentioned by Peter has to do with the thousand years of delay by reason that all should come to repentance before the Jesus comes. Another reason is God's promise has been postponed and inserted a temporal time period called grace dispensation. As it becomes 2,000 temporal years now.
Anyway, we will try to examine the thousand years of what is this all about; a delay or a postponement. Concerning the principle of God for the house of Israel, it is said that the promise he has spoken surely He will do and it will come to pass.
- Eze 12:25 For I am the LORD: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord GOD.
- Eze 12:28 Therefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; There shall none of my words be prolonged any more, but the word which I have spoken shall be done, saith the Lord GOD.
- Isa 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:
- Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
And when it comes to time: like doing it quickly, surely he did.
- Hab 2:3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.
- Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
- Revelation 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
- Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
- Revelation 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Now if the Lord says quickly with respect to signs what can you say then?
- Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
- Matthew 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
- Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
- Mat 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
- Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Questions:
- How many years do you think some of the disciples are still alive upon fulfillment?
- In what generation the coming will occur, when He says; this generation?
- What generation that shall not pass away till He comes?
- And if they see Jerusalem surrounded by thousands of Roman armies what can you conclude?
- And if their entire city is demolished after days, can you believe it's fulfilled?
- If that so, then is there anything here that can be postponed or delayed?
The truth is He will not come after thousands of year. The context of a thousand years as one day and one day as thousand is an infinite time frame of coming. To come with rewards, eternally he did in every bit of our hearts but in the coming with vengeance, He will come like a thief in the night and destroy their city.
- 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The exact hour, day, and month of His coming with vengeance are not given but all should watch and must understand the signs He gave. No one knows the dates neither can see His appearing but when the disciples receive powers of the Holy Ghost then the time is near.
- Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Near as He is standing on the door. The apostle James says be ready guys and be patient to one another for he is almost here.
- Jas 5:9 Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.
The same guidance given by the Hebrew writer to exhort one another as they see it approaching.
- Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
All of the signs they saw made them believe it is really happening since the day of Pentecost; the receiving of powers as He promised; "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost
- Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
And when he came, those who believed his words departed from their City and were saved from the great wrath. They knew it because when they saw Jerusalem surrounded with thousands of army they remembered Jesus' warning.
- Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
Then finally all things are fulfilled and the old heaven and earth had passed away; melted with fervent heat and were dissolved by fire from the hands of their enemies, the Roman armies.
- Luk 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Now, where is the postponement or delay here?
So please don't hold what God has fulfilled in their very own time. Perhaps none of us have witness this great tribulation of ancient Israelites, but Gen. Josephus did and had wrote it. I believe the 40 years of waiting is the quickly He meant, enough to bring all His chosen people to repentance and to be saved. And He did a long long time ago.
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